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75 for 75 - Center Field
« on: August 09, 2018, 07:31:43 AM »
1) Andy Ping * 2021 - 2036
Despite the fact that Andy Ping played his entire career with two other Hall of Famers (Donnie Bremer & Todd Neary), he never won an NPBL championship.  In fact, he never even played in the championship series.  This trio made the playoffs 9 times, but was always bounced before reaching the big stage.  As amazing as this seems, it is not unusual. 
The New Mexico Dukes of 2000-2020 had overlapping careers of four Hall of Famers: Tanner Chayse (2000-2017), Malachi Sain (2000-2010), Steven Williams (2002-2017) and John Baptista (2006-2020).  Yet the Dukes were only able to make the playoffs ONE time (2008), and in that single appearance they were knocked out in the LCS. 
In addition to that, the Michigan Militia of 2030 to 2050 also had 4 HoF with overlapping careers: Ed Hansen (2031-2048), Mark Sims (2037-2055), Rogelio Pessoa (2030-2043) and Keith Knapp (2030-2047).  Those players made the playoffs 11-13 times, but never reached the finals. 
Here is a list of all the Hall of Fame players that never played in a National Cup:
Player  Years     Team(s)      Years Reaching Playoffs         
Malachi Sain  2000 - 2010     NM      1         
Alex Garza  2000 - 2011     NV      1         
Samson Steele  2000 - 2011     KY/VA      2         
Tanner Chayse  2000 - 2017     NM      1         
Pete Kahle  2000 - 2019     KY/CT/ID/KS      4         
Rey Moncayo  2002 - 2014     MA/NV      0         
Steven Williams  2002 - 2017     NM      1         
Chris Lott  2005 - 2018     NV/PA      1         
John Baptista  2006 - 2020     NM      1         
Donnie Bremer  2017 - 2039     MD      9         
Todd Neary  2019 - 2037     MD      9         
Andy Ping  2021 - 2036     MD      9         
Carmelo Fons  2021 - 2036     PA/VA/ON/NJ      3         
Harry Andrews  2022 - 2038     NM      3         
Dale Couch  2026 - 2044     CO      3         
Todd Castillo  2028 - 2041     TX/CA/ID      8         
Clarence Smith  2030 - 2042     NY      6         
Rogelio Pessoa  2030 - 2043     MI      11         
Keith Knapp  2030 - 2047     MI      13         
Ed Hansen  2031 - 2048     MI      13         
Mark Sims  2037 - 2055     MI      12         
Specs Galloway  2048 - 2068     FL/UT      12         
Denny Willis  2049 - 2063     MI/IL/ID/FL      8         
Lewis Payne  2058 - 2070     HI      4         

2) Denny Willis * 2049 - 2063
Denny Wills had a tremendous power/speed combination as evidenced in the table below.
Player  Position     30/30 Seasons      40/40 Seasons         
Denny WillisCF84
Andy PingCF81
Tanner ChayseSS51
Christopher CorteseCF51
Hal Rehm1B50
Rudy LareauSS50
Jack Hesse2B41
Héctor VásquezRF40
Alex CabezasRF40
Felipe Gonzáles1B32
Dale CouchLF30
Leonardo SuárezLF30
Grubby ThompsonCF20
Cyril Foland2B20
Santo TedescoSS20
Skipper CageLF20
Oscar OakleyLF20
Bill LongLF20
Alex GarzaCF20
Rob DorseyCF20
Tim Martin2B11
Sanford Powers3B11
Stacey Tatham Jr.1B10
Rafael Cuellar1B10
Lane Commons2B10
Bob Medforth2B10
Tyson Bacon3B10
Jose Chavero3B10
Carlos Otero3B10
Jing-bo Kan3B10
Evan Adams3B10
Gandalf GreyhemeSS10
Mark DeliaSS10
Alejandro ReyesSS10
Spooner ShenkSS10
Judge JudyLF10
Steve MurrayLF10
John FleuryLF10
Roberto GarcíaLF10
Ewing WashingtonLF10
Kevin SarrattLF10
Mike CranwellLF10
Greg HoltCF10
Masafumi NishidaCF10
Steven HugganCF10
Jerry BakerCF10
Joe WilsonCF10
Clarence DiBenedettoRF10
Eric ClineRF10
Jess VillalobosRF10
Ignacio GarcíaRF10
Ramón BarrónRF10
Roberto SalazarRF10
Donald FickRF10
Sixto SolisRF10

3) Felton Olney * 2013 - 2029
In 2013, Felton Olney was the #2 overall draft choice.  He went on to win the Bick Horizon (Rookie of the Year) Award in the GEL that same year (2013).  Which of these two is more valuable?  Said another way: If your team was to be given either the Bick Award winner or the 1.02 draft slot, which would you choose?
The club of players that have won the Bick include some of the greatest of all-time: Walt Geldorf, Buzzy Stevens, Andy Dwyer, Santo Tedesco, Michael Koo Jr… but it also includes a fair number of players in which winning the Bick was the career highlight.  In fact, of the 140 players that won a Bick (in either league) between 2001 and 2070, 60 of those players did not make a 75 for 75 list.  Basically, that means that owning a Bick Award means you have a little better than a 50/50 chance of having an above-average career.
The average rank points for Bick winners is 27.21.  Recall that rank points is 76-Rank where rank is where the player was ranked on the 75 for 75 list, except for starting pitchers where rank points is (301-Rank)/4 (rounded up).  Knowing this average rank points value allows us to compare to the value of a draft slot (covered in LF Dale Couch #4).  Below is the table of draft slot values for the top 10:
Draft Position  Expected Rank Points     
1.0135.05
1.0228.69
1.0324.11
1.0420.69
1.0518.04
1.0615.94
1.0714.24
1.0812.83
1.0911.65
1.1010.65
Therefore, it is slightly more preferable to own the 1.02 draft slot than it is to own the Bick Award winner.


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Re: 75 for 75 - Center Field
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2018, 07:33:42 AM »
4) Lewis Payne * 2058 - 2070
I had it in my notes to cover draft years under Lewis Payne.  Payne was drafted 1.15 in the 2055 draft.  The 2055 draft class had a total of 485 rank points, which ranks 27th out of 69 – a very middle-of-the-pack draft class.  I think when I made that note, I was mixing up Lewis Payne with Blair Payton (which for some reason I often seem to do).  Blair Payton (ranked #16 CF) was part of the notoriously weak 2011 draft class.  Anyway, since I’ve introduced the topic, I’ll continue with it.  What is the weakest draft class in the history of the NPBL?
The bottom 5:
5.  The 2059 draft class (167 total rank points)
Player  Draft Position     Rank     
Spencer Richardson  1.04  (NC) 2B #26   
Diego Santana  1.21  (UT)3B #28   
Daniel Cooper 1.09 (MN)   2B #32   
Carlos Hernández 3.24 (NV) 1B #51   
The other top 10 draft selections that did not achieve a 75 for 75 rank:
1.01 (CO) – Tom Cannon – Left the NPBL to pursue another sport
1.02 (KS) – Ron Arrington – Bullpen fodder
1.03 (WA) – Micah Yockey – Spent 4.5 years in the starting rotation with little success
1.05 (CA) – Todd Holcomb – Only spent parts of 2 years in the majors
1.06 (NS) – Rafael Rangel – Part-time bullpen member for about 10 years
1.07 (MI) – Chris O’Day – Starting pitcher for one season (when he lost 20 games) and a below-average close for another 7 seasons
1.08 (MA) – Frasco Andunvar – A promising start (17-11 3.47) that derailed.
1.10 (NM) – James Quintana – Bick Horizon Award winner, but after a concussion injury in 2067, he was never the same.

4.  The 2063 draft class (162 total rank points)
Player  Draft Position     Rank     
Sandro González 1.22  (UT) C #19   
Juan Miranda  1.23  (NS)SP #100   
Juan Rivera 1.19 (PA)   1B #48   
An-yi Pei 1.01 (IL) RF #59   
Jeffery Santos 1.08 (ID) SP #263   
The other top 10 draft selections that did not achieve a 75 for 75 rank:
1.02 (MN) – Raul Espinosa – Topped out at the AA level
1.03 (VA) – Juan Cruz – Only one year with over 200 at-bats in the majors
1.04 (WA) – Jason Galloway – Only two (unimpressive) years with over 200 ML at-bats
1.05 (MI) – Eric Narborough – Relief ace for one year for MI.  Traded to ID and did well for 3 years as starter.  Then shoulder injuries took their toll.
1.06 (TN) – Mike Thomas – Average (maybe below average) starter for many years.  Currently ranks as #492
1.07 (MD) – Raul Ramirez – Part-time starter, part-time starter for many years for MD. 
1.09 (HI) – Jack Perez – Given opportunity for 3 years as a youngster, but flopped.
1.10 (KS) – Victor Granados – Never made the majors

3. The 2038 draft class (79 total rank points)
Player  Draft Position     Rank     
Evan Dixon 1.06  (CO) 1B #23   
Scott Alexander  1.19  (MN)CF #61   
Slippery Mike Hunter1.01 (PA)   SP #277   
Ángel Escobar 4.03 (NM) RF #71 
The other top 10 draft selections that did not achieve a 75 for 75 rank:
1.02 (TX) – Ridge Carrillo – Colorado tried him in the rotation several times, but he couldn’t hold down the job. 
1.03 (NM) – Evan Adams – Served 10+ years as the regular 3B, but he wasn’t anything too special.  Ranks #115 for 3B.
1.04 (LA) – Roberto Mendez – Played in the majors for about 10 years, but like Adams, was nothing special.  Ranks #103 for LF.
1.05 (NJ) – Sparky Adams – Another 10+ year, average player.  I’m sensing a theme here.  Ranks #155 for catchers
1.07 (MS) – Henry Burke – Looks like an injury derailed his career after 5 (average) years.
1.08 (KS) – Ernie Fossil – Continuing the theme…Part-time starter, part-time bullpen for about 10 years.
1.09 (UT) – Domingo Jimenez – Ranks #251 for CF

2. The 2011 draft class (78 total rank points)
Player  Draft Position     Rank     
Blair Payton 1.05  (NV) CF #16
Octavio Romero  2.22  (NY)RF #58 
The other top 10 draft selections that did not achieve a 75 for 75 rank:
1.01 (CA) – James Gaunt - Could barely hit his weight (.218) as a part-time player for 10 years.
1.02 (FL) – Tyler Johnson – Only one year with more than 200 at-bats
1.03 (DC) – Larry Misner – A tiny bit of power to go with a lot of strikeouts and a poor average in his 5 year career.
1.04 (KS) – Timothy Midgette – Never made the majors
1.06 (WA) – Gino Vera – Ranks as the #100 1B.
1.07 (TX) – Curtis Yoo – Nine years as a starter.  Just misses the cutoff ranking.  He is #302 as a SP.
1.08 (MA) – Lester Griffey – Ranks as #104 as a 2B.
1.09 (NC) – Brad Flavin – Ranked #96 as a RP
1.10 (CT) – Danny Contreras – Only lasted 5 years in the majors as a utility player.

1. The 2069 draft class (0 total rank points)
It’s possible that the 2069 draft class is a little too soon to know.  An 18 year-old draftee would be 24 or 25 by the time of the 75 for 75 ranking.  While that may be too soon to make an impact on the rankings, it is enough time to know whether or not he will develop.  Looking at the top 10 drafted players:
1.01 (MI) – John Peterson - Now 26 years old and a regular member of the Militia starting rotation.  His statistics say that he is basically an average starting pitcher.  His Stuff rating says he could be more than that, but his Movement and Control will probably always limit him.  At his current trajectory, he is unlikely to earn any ranking points.
1.02 (CA) – Juan Castillo – Now 29 years old and playing as the Lions regular LF.  He is currently ranked at #102 for LF.  If Castillo continues to compile years similar to his history, he is unlikely to improve his ranking by much.
1.03 (UT) – Pat Hall – Now 28 years old and pitching in the Scorpions rotation (when not injured).  He was outstanding in 2075 (19-9 2.77), but otherwise has been average.  Projecting his career from this point is uncertain.
1.04 (HI) – Matt Smith – Now 27 and serving as a backup infielder for the Kula Sox.  Doesn’t look like he’ll ever be anything more than that.
1.05 (GA) – Joe Gonzales – Currently 28 years old and ranked #110 at first base.  Gonzales has the ratings to continue to climb up and up the rankings
1.06 (MD) – Eric Corrigan – Now 28 and currently sitting in AAA.  He looks destined to be nothing better than a backup OF.
1.07 (TN) – Gary Edwards – Currently 28 years old and a regular member of the Hounds rotation.  Edwards is the #4 starter and that looks like that will be his destiny for the rest of his career.
1.08 (LA) – Billy Sol Hardwhistle – Age 29 and just getting his first taste of the majors.  Not likely to improve the stock of this draft class.
1.09 (WA) – Will Giblett – Now 28 years old and a perennial all-star due to his 5-tool abilities.  He falls just outside the rankings (#82 for CF), but he probably would make the list if he continues his career arc.  I would estimate he could end up somewhere in the 50ish range.
1.10 (NV) – Ubaldo Giacobone – Now 24 years old and has the potential rankings to be someone.  Having a great year so far in 2076.  Similar ratings to the #1 overall pick in this year.
A quick glance through the rest of the draft class shows some other potential gems: 1.13 Miguel Ramirez and  1.24 Rudy O’Neill.
In order for the 2069 draft class to move out of the “worst ever” ranking, they need one of two things to happen: (1) to go the route of the 2011 draft, they need a player to have a hall of fame career in the mold of Blair Payton or (2) to go the route of the 2038 draft, they need a player to have a very, very good career in the mold of Evan Dixon and 3-4 players to also rank.  Joe Gonzales (1.05) looks like the best bet to lead the draft class.  Whether or not he has it in him to be a HoFer remains to be seen.  There is also enough potential with the supporting cast of Peterson (1.01), Hall (1.03), Giblett (1.09) and Ramirez (1.13) to raise the stock of the class.  But it’s all still potential.  If I were forced to make a prediction, I would wager that when it’s all said and done, the 2069 class will rise above the 2011 and 2038 classes, but not rank any better than that.

5) Alex Garza * 2000 - 2011
Garza was the first player selected in the inaugural draft.  The quality players drafted in the inaugural draft are somewhat overshadowed by the created players at the inception of the league, but one could field nearly an entire team of Hall of Famers from the inaugural draft:
C – Malachi Sain
1B – Aragorn King or Jimmie Davis
2B – Zachary Matthews
3B – No Hall of Famers
SS – Rey Moncayo
LF – Anthony Beckford
CF – Alex Garza
RF – Sully Sullivan
SP – Edgardo Castillo, Steven Williams, Aaron Bacon, Samson Steele, Robert Garza, Leo Cleland, Thomas Showers
RP – Diego Castillo

6) Harold Petrillo * 2003 - 2019
Petrillo was the #2 overall pick in the 2002 draft by the Maryland Admirals.  The Admirals at the time were managed by Solo Acosta.  Acosta managed the Admirals from 2000 through 2004 and then served a stint as the Utah Scorpions manager from 2017 to 2025.  During these periods, Acosta drafted HoFers James Yim (1.03 in 2001), Harold Petrillo (1.02 in 2002), Jack Hesse (1.03 in 2024) and Leonardo de la Rosa (2.01 in 2024).  For comparison, I looked at the number of HoF that I’ve drafted for the Massachusetts Patriots and there is only one: Arturo Esquiuel. 
I think it’s safe to say that Solo is a better drafter than I am, but I figure there is a way to quantify this.  Using the “value of a draft position” study results, I figured that I can assign a numerical value to each draft pick.  For instance, using the table shown in Felton Olney (CF #3), we can see that the expected rank points for the 1.02 draft position is 28.69.  Harold Petrillo, who was drafted in the 1.02 slot ranks as the #6 CF – which is 70 rank points.  Therefore, as a “draft score”, Solo would earn 41.31 points.  On the other hand, in 2003, Solo had the 1.04 draft slot and drafted Ronaldo Blanca.  The 1.04 slot has an expected rank point value of 20.69.  However, since Blanca never panned out, his actual rank points is 0, which means that Solo earns negative 20.69 on his draft score.  So the total swing-and-miss on Blanca ate up about half of the points that Petrillo earned.  But that’s just two draft picks.  In all, Solo had 67 draft picks (round 4 or better – I didn’t tabulate any of the round 5+ picks).  Out of those 67 picks, he picked 9 players that were ranked:
Player  Draft Position     Expected Rank Pts      Actual Rank Pts      Draft Score
Leonardo de la Rosa2.01 (2024)4.33  61 56.67 
James Yim1.03 (2001)24.11  75 50.89 
Jack Hesse1.03 (2024)24.11  71 46.89 
Harold Petrillo1.02 (2002)28.69  70 41.31 
Fred Haigney1.09 (2022)11.65  52 40.35 
Andrew Wilson1.16 (2040)6.88  43 36.12 
Kelly Martin2.08 (2025)3.29  34 30.71 
Herc Columbie2.08 (2024)3.29  20 16.71 
Matt Rumble1.17 (2025)6.47  10 3.53 
Adding up the Draft Score column gives a total of +323.17.  On the negative side, we have the 58 draft picks Solo made which never amounted to anything great.  There were 10 first round picks whose sum of expected rank points were 108.95, 17 second round picks totaling 49.79, 14 third round picks (22.62) and 16 fourth round picks (17.19).  In total the 58 “misses” have a negative Draft Score of 198.56.  Therefore, the quantifiable Draft Score for Solo Acosta is 323.17 – 198.56 = 124.61.  Here are the Draft Scores of all the current owners as well as the past owners with 50 or more draft picks:
Owner  Draft Picks     Expected Rank Pts      Actual Rank Pts      Draft Score
John Yuda247871.421398526.58
John Heinz227937.21359421.8
Michael Koo284879.121200320.88
Matt Streeter193728.141023294.86
Freddy Reyes91388.88679290.12
Matt Yordy150675.52962286.48
Brad Huber210706.75956249.25
Fred Kroner297902.431120217.57
John Bates67337.49545207.51
Shane Rigsby87251.04448196.96
David Thurston183771.49936164.51
Solo Acosta67311.39436124.61
Jason Dettbarn2831053.571160106.43
Scott Murphy90387.2345365.77
Chris Ferrante70318.8536445.15
Andy Romig167735.4776630.53
Scott Collins55190.2621221.74
Jason Kroner89383.6840016.32
Sam Apfel4000
Mark Fagenson2810.070-10.07
Gregg McGreggor96371.38353-18.38
John Momberg3527.580-27.58
Lawrence Tabachnick72190.36157-33.36
Jonathan Warren64186.4141-45.4
Cameron Jolley123502.96447-55.96
Jesse Berry66247.6181-66.6
Paul Nicholls70279.24206-73.24
Rob Chapman2631207.031131-76.03
Peter White119439.26362-77.26
Marcus Shuter142526.43447-79.43
Austin Scher76244.97147-97.97
Stefin Clapham235911.94788-123.94
Marc Walsby97456.84332-124.84
Glen Michaud98369.92245-124.92
Brian Cook188596.83459-137.83
Tate Brown113485.76342-143.76
Eric Holthaus94353.04193-160.04
Harry Wyma244910.1743-167.1
Brian Nangle2851000.35831-169.35
Ben Jemmerson104382.17169-213.17
Tim Veenstra2811042.73779-263.73
For the drafts from 2070 forward, I zero’ed out the Expected Rank Points.  An owner can still earn Actual Rank Points if the player is ranked (like Adrián Amézaga for example), but is not held accountable for those draft slots not panning out.   Yet.
Interesting (to me at least)… When I did not know who was managing a certain club, I left the owner field blank.  When I knew that no one was managing a club, I entered “CPU”.  The {blank}s have the worst draft score – quite a bit worse than even me.  However, the CPU is nearly exactly even:
Owner  Draft Picks     Expected Rank Pts      Actual Rank Pts      Draft Score
CPU134453.714573.29
(blank)5392575.731974-601.73

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Re: 75 for 75 - Center Field
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2018, 07:34:28 AM »
7) Eric Sullivan * 2034 - 2052
Florida has a rather rich history of center fielders.  The history of the Bluefish center fielders can basically be traced from
Armando Mesa (CF #23) 2000 – 2008
Tony Bergeron 2009 – 2013
Maurice Rapko and Thomas Locklin 2014 – 2022
Aluino Castellan 2023 – 2036
Eric Sullivan (CF #7) 2037 – 2052
Bob Harris 2053 – 2063
Ray Stewart (CF #20) 2064 – 2074
Felipe Ramirez 2075 –
Ramirez looks poised to hold down the position for many years to come.  Despite the continuity at the position, the Bluefish rank 4th when it comes to total rank points (2584).

#3 – Maryland Admirals (2603) – Headlined by heavyweights
Andy Ping (#1)
Harold Petrillo (#6)
along with contributions from
Del Gibson (#43)
Vaughn Watson (#66)

#2 – Virginia Grays / DC Senators (3331) – The Grays follow the same pattern that led them to being the top organization for left fielders (see LF #8).  They stacked up a lot of years from players who ranked just outside the top 10:
Tomas Chavez (#10)
Akihiro Matsubara (#12)
Tim White (#19)
Tony Valentin (#35)
Tom Galaxy (#36)
Charles Hsu (#75)

#1 – Nevada Jacks/Dragons (3523)
Alex Garza (#5)
Couple seasons from Bill Newbold (#11)
Blair Payton (#16)
Yong-chul Song (#32)
Jay Trotter (#41)
Armando Pagan (#46)
Soze Liao (#50)

8 ) Rob Dorsey 2061 - 2074
Perhaps more than any other top 10 player from any position, Rob Dorsey caused me to wonder: “Who is this guy?”  At first glance, Dorsey’s statistics don’t appear all that impressive either.  However, Dorsey represents the most efficient way to do well in my rankings.  My rankings are weighted (40%) towards a player’s best 5 seasons and they reward players for having exceptional seasons back-to-back.  The first half of Dorsey’s career contain (arguably) his best 5 seasons continuously from 2062 to 2066. 
The second thing that my rankings are weighted heavily (40%) is towards being the best at your respective position.  In Dorsey’s best years, he didn’t have a ton of competition in CF.  Only Lewis Payne (#4) was consistently in competition with Dorsey.  So Dorsey ends up looking pretty well in his YOPDI score as well.
Finally, the remaining composition of my ratings is the short term (top season & top 3 seasons) and longer term (top 10 years and career).  Dorsey does just well enough in these areas to earn the #8 ranking.

9) Greg Holt * 2021 - 2038
There are 5 top ten players that achieved their top ten ranking while never being considered the best at their position in any given year.
Jake Young (2B #10)
Donnie Bremer (3B #8)
Mark Delia (SS #8)
Taylor Dye (3B #10)
Greg Holt (CF #9)
The top CF in Greg Holt’s prime years:
2025
Andy Ping
Felton Olney
Bill Newbold
Greg Holt
2026
Andy Ping
Greg Holt
Blair Glaspie
Felton Olney
2027
Andy Ping
Greg Holt
Blair Glaspie
Lee DeSilva
2028
Andy Ping
Greg Holt
Blair Glaspie
Lee DeSilva
2029
Andy Ping
Blair Glaspie
Greg Holt
Lee DeSilva
2030
Andy Ping
Greg Holt
Blair Galspie
Anthony Gibson
2031
Andy Ping
Malachi Marshall
Greg Holt
Robert Kent

10) Tomás Chávez 2033 - 2051
I’d like to see Chavez get another shot on a HoF ballot.  He was on the ballot in 2069 when we were trying to do some catchup and was clearly overshadowed by some of the greatest names in NPBL history.  Chavez is probably accustomed to be being overshadowed though.  A typical leadoff hitter type of player, Chavez doesn’t have the power numbers to wow you, but when you consider he would draw nearly 100 walks and hit .300 in his sleep, he does deserve a closer look for the Hall.

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Re: 75 for 75 - Center Field
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2018, 07:36:01 AM »
11) Bill Newbold * 2019 - 2041
12) Akihiro Matsubara 2043 - 2059
13) Masafumi Nishida 2037 - 2054
14) Fred Hoffman 2058 - 2075
15) Malachi Marshall 2030 - 2043
16) Blair Payton * 2012 - 2029
17) Blair Glaspie 2021 - 2033
18) Robinson González 2038 - 2054
19) Tim White 2065 - 2075
20) Ray Stewart 2064 - 2074
21) Steven Huggan 2006 - 2022
22) Bobby Nuño 2011 - 2025
23) Armando Mesa 2000 - 2010
24) Delmar Barrie 2007 - 2025
25) J.D. Arney 2003 - 2018
26) Dallas Clark 2069 - 2075
27) Enrique Ramos 2047 - 2065
28) Lee DeSilva 2020 - 2036
29) Richard Samuels 2057 - 2071
30) Christopher Cortese 2000 - 2010
31) Miguel Calderón 2054 - 2070
32) Yong-chul Song 2048 - 2061
33) Jerry Baker 2056 - 2072
34) Dwight Francis 2067 - 2075
35) Tony Valentín 2060 - 2069
36) Tom Galaxy 2019 - 2033
37) Simon Duran 2031 - 2045
38) Kenny Barrett 2046 - 2064
39) Robert Kent 2024 - 2040
40) David Seagate 2027 - 2044
41) Jay Trotter 2014 - 2029
42) Scott Sarazin 2072 - 2075
43) Del Gibson 2070 - 2075
44) Wenjie Laverick 2028 - 2044
45) Kyle Brown 2046 - 2059
46) Armando Pagán 2055 - 2072
47) Kelvin Varga 2000 - 2008
48) Kerry Bingham 2034 - 2050
49) Jim Plowman 2064 - 2075
50) Soze Liao 2038 - 2054
51) Hayden Johnson 2045 - 2053
52) Ernesto González 2049 - 2064
53) Carlos Santiago 2040 - 2056
54) Joe Hansen 2049 - 2063
55) Glenn Procter 2026 - 2035
56) Juan Cruz 2044 - 2060
57) Anthony Gibson 2025 - 2037
58) Benjamin Wagstaff 2000 - 2007
59) Justin Berndt 2005 - 2017
60) Lawrence Sanders 2065 - 2075
61) Scott Alexander 2043 - 2061
62) Greg Harrison 2068 - 2075
63) Alfonso Camino 2021 - 2031
64) Nathaniel Keevil 2038 - 2049
65) Lemur Lemus 2055 - 2068
66) Vaughn Watson 2041 - 2060
67) Mike Cooper 2047 - 2061
68) Joe Wilson 2012 - 2022
69) Devin West 2046 - 2063
70) Paul McCracken 2018 - 2028
71) Carlos Torres 2047 - 2061
72) Josh Kapaun 2000 - 2007
73) Wes Scott 2042 - 2057
74) Steve Morton 2037 - 2056
75) Charles Hsu 2031 - 2047

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Re: 75 for 75 - Center Field
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2018, 07:52:04 AM »
If I may toot my own horn, I think the study on the draft is some fascinating stuff.  It ended up being a little disjointed as it sort of evolved in my own work.  But if you are going to read any part of these 75 for 75, I'd encourage the following parts: LF #4, CF #3 and CF #6.

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Re: 75 for 75 - Center Field
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2018, 09:56:34 AM »
I’ve only been a part of the league for a few seasons, and most of these names mean nothing to me, and yet...I find this series of articles inexplicably fascinating.  I read every word of them, and I stand in awe of the work that was put in to make this happen.  Thank you!

The draft stuff hit home for me.  I had only very recently joined the league when I logged on one day and discovered that the teams ahead of me had all made their picks quickly and that I was on the clock.  In my haste to not hold things up, I grabbed the first half-decent guy I could find- Matt Smith.  I’ve always regretted not taking more time.

Given that, and given that my first draft pick the following year quit to devote his time to basketball or basket weaving or something, being ranked sort of in the middle of the pack as a drafter is OK...

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« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2018, 11:16:47 AM »
I’ve only been a part of the league for a few seasons, and most of these names mean nothing to me, and yet...I find this series of articles inexplicably fascinating.  I read every word of them, and I stand in awe of the work that was put in to make this happen.  Thank you!

The draft stuff hit home for me.  I had only very recently joined the league when I logged on one day and discovered that the teams ahead of me had all made their picks quickly and that I was on the clock.  In my haste to not hold things up, I grabbed the first half-decent guy I could find- Matt Smith.  I’ve always regretted not taking more time.

Given that, and given that my first draft pick the following year quit to devote his time to basketball or basket weaving or something, being ranked sort of in the middle of the pack as a drafter is OK...

For your part, because you are new, you are strongly benefited from the fact that I've place no expectations on anybody from the 2070 drafts onward.  So even though you've not drafted a player who makes a 75 for 75 list (yet), the only negative points you get are from the 2069 draft:
Matt Smith 1.04 (-20.69)
Alfred Marshall 2.04 (-3.82)
Ken Wright 3.04 (-1.87)
Danny Carlson 4.04 (-1.19)

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Re: 75 for 75 - Center Field
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2018, 11:24:04 AM »
I’ve only been a part of the league for a few seasons, and most of these names mean nothing to me, and yet...I find this series of articles inexplicably fascinating.  I read every word of them, and I stand in awe of the work that was put in to make this happen.  Thank you!

Thank you for saying that.  I'm glad you enjoy these.  The fact that it is interesting to you even though you don't know the names is very encouraging.  It makes me reconsider this

I’m still really loving these...

I wonder if it’s worth cross-posting them to the OOTP forums as a kind of recruitment tool? I think a lot of owners found this league via Chappy’s “Rebuilding a Champion” thread and maybe that kind of exposure could be helpful?

I think maybe I will start cross-posting to the OOTP forums.

What's the best sub-forum to post these?  Online Leagues, Fictional Simulations, or Dynasty Reports?
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2018, 07:32:42 PM »
Agreed these are awesome! Fantastic work!
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2018, 04:53:38 AM »
Love me some Greg Holt.  Excellent work, Tim.

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Re: 75 for 75 - Center Field
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2018, 08:11:51 AM »
Therefore, it is slightly more preferable to own the 1.02 draft slot than it is to own the Bick Award winner.

Fascinating

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« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2018, 08:15:48 AM »
Adding up the Draft Score column gives a total of +323.17.  On the negative side, we have the 58 draft picks Solo made which never amounted to anything great.  There were 10 first round picks whose sum of expected rank points were 108.95, 17 second round picks totaling 49.79, 14 third round picks (22.62) and 16 fourth round picks (17.19).  In total the 58 “misses” have a negative Draft Score of 198.56.  Therefore, the quantifiable Draft Score for Solo Acosta is 323.17 – 198.56 = 124.61.  Here are the Draft Scores of all the current owners as well as the past owners with 50 or more draft picks:
Owner  Draft Picks     Expected Rank Pts      Actual Rank Pts      Draft Score
John Yuda247871.421398526.58
John Heinz227937.21359421.8
Michael Koo284879.121200320.88
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Brian Nangle2851000.35831-169.35
Ben Jemmerson104382.17169-213.17
Tim Veenstra2811042.73779-263.73

Tim, your next project is to find out why the hell am I (we) am so bad at drafting. Anyone want to give me some tips?

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« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2018, 08:24:08 AM »
Adding up the Draft Score column gives a total of +323.17.  On the negative side, we have the 58 draft picks Solo made which never amounted to anything great.  There were 10 first round picks whose sum of expected rank points were 108.95, 17 second round picks totaling 49.79, 14 third round picks (22.62) and 16 fourth round picks (17.19).  In total the 58 “misses” have a negative Draft Score of 198.56.  Therefore, the quantifiable Draft Score for Solo Acosta is 323.17 – 198.56 = 124.61.  Here are the Draft Scores of all the current owners as well as the past owners with 50 or more draft picks:
Owner  Draft Picks     Expected Rank Pts      Actual Rank Pts      Draft Score
John Yuda247871.421398526.58
John Heinz227937.21359421.8
Michael Koo284879.121200320.88
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Brian Nangle2851000.35831-169.35
Ben Jemmerson104382.17169-213.17
Tim Veenstra2811042.73779-263.73

Tim, your next project is to find out why the hell am I (we) am so bad at drafting. Anyone want to give me some tips?

I think my lesson learned is that I might as well go ahead and trade my draft picks.  They don't do me any good any way.   ;D

Missing on high draft picks is costly.  You've had misses on:
2043 1.01 Gustavo Jimenez
2058 1.01 Lee Manning
2059 1.01 Tom Cannon
2057 1.02 Old Nick Bradley
2044 1.03 Justin McCullough
2021 1.05 Paydirt James

And for my part I've got two 1.01s, one 1.03 and three 1.04 that were complete whiffs.

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« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2018, 08:26:24 AM »
My Ram's guys:
18) Robinson González 2038 - 2054
29) Richard Samuels 2057 - 2071
30) Christopher Cortese 2000 - 2010
60) Lawrence Sanders 2065 - 2075
75) Charles Hsu 2031 - 2047

Gonzalez and Samuels were two of the best ever Rams.

Cortese was before my time. Though, according to Catobase, he didn't play for me for that entire time.

Sanders was a big reason we won the Cup in 2065. Lots of love for him.

Charles Hsu. Such a weird picture for his name. Was sad to get rid of him when he eventually left the Rams.



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Re: 75 for 75 - Center Field
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2018, 08:30:08 AM »
Missing on high draft picks is costly.  You've had misses on:
2043 1.01 Gustavo Jimenez
2058 1.01 Lee Manning
2059 1.01 Tom Cannon
2057 1.02 Old Nick Bradley
2044 1.03 Justin McCullough
2021 1.05 Paydirt James

Guh... those names!

Lee Manning still burns me everytime I see him. He was going to be great and then he decides to just quit the game. Grrr!

Paydirt hurts too. I had very high hopes for him, but he never panned out.