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75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« on: July 24, 2018, 10:40:04 AM »
1) Summer Nelson * 2000 - 2021
Players who are ranked #1 at their position:
Pos  PlayerNumber of times winning the Bacon Award
Jocko Garcia4
1B  Walt Geldorf8
2B  Bob Griffith3
3B  Buzzy Stevens4
SS  Tanner Chayse4
LF  Summer Nelson0
It probably won’t spoil anything to declare that the top ranked CF and top ranked RF both won multiple Bacons as well.
Summer Nelson consistently put up excellent stats year after year, but never had a truly superb year which allowed him to take home the Bacon. It’s hard to argue that there was any year that Nelson should have won.  His best chance may have been in 2015, but instead the award went to his teammate Christopher Stormes:
Player - Year  Avg     HR      RBI          R      BB      K      SB      OBP         SLG      OPS      WAR      tvSTAT     
Christopher Stormes 2015.2824613198561150.348.5000.8488.17.07
Summer Nelson 2015.3303711597455311.386.5200.9068.28.18

2) Anthony Beckford * 2000 - 2013
Beckford is one of those guys to which I cannot associate with a particular team.  I suppose he should be considered a NY Baron, since he spent the most years there, but the years spent in the Big Apple were the twilight of his career.  His best years were in Colorado or Mississippi.
PlayerNumber of teams played for
Leonardo de la Rosa6
Grady McDonaghey5
Keith Tracey5
Walt Geldof4
Anthony Beckford4
Matt McQuade4
Grubby Thompson4
Cliff Butter4
Hank Carruthers4
Hongwu Zou4
Jerry Jorge4
Leo Flynn4
Karl Immell4
Andrew Wilson4
John Fleury4
Jorge Arreola4
Carlos Fimenez4
Joe Colin4
Christopher Delaney4
Lucio Costello4
Harvey Thornton4

Although I cannot associate a team to Beckford, Beckford does have one of the strongest associations to an MLB player for me: Ted Williams, probably because Beckford is the last (and only) NPBL player to hit over .400 in a season.  Williams was a better overall player than Beckford (more home runs and walks and less strikeouts), but Beckford was every bit the pure hitter that Williams was.
Beckford’s career batting average of .354 is tops in history of the league… by a wide margin.  The next closest retired player is Hector Dominez (.335), followed by Tanner Chayse (.334).  Of the major batting statistics, there are three career records that have a wide gap between #1 and #2:
Batting Average
1 – Anthony Beckford .354
2 – Hector Dominez .335
3 – Tanner Chayse .334
Total Bases
1 – Walt Geldorf 6839
2 – Mark Sims 6178
3 – Buzzy Stevens 6172
Career WAR
1 – Buzzy Stevens 171.8
2 – Tanner Chayse 146.2
3 – Tyson Bacon 145.4
Classifying these statistics as “unbreakable” records may be a bit of a stretch, but I will say that I’ll be surprised to see any of them go down.

3) Ethan Teller * 2020 - 2038
I found this on an old, old thread entitled “What to Watch for in 2027”:

- Is there a more anonymous super-star than Ethan Teller?
 
Ethan Teller bears a lot of similarities with Summer Nelson.  Both are right handed hitting outfielders who hit for good average and a lot of power.  Both had consistently excellent stats year after year, but never won a Bacon Award.  Both spent their careers with three different teams and their careers followed similar paths: traded from their initial team after 3-4 years, won multiple championships in their most memorable years with their second team, and finally traded to a third team looking for some veteran leadership to end their careers.

4) Dale Couch * 2026 - 2044
Dale Couch is one of three Hall of Famers to be drafted in the 2.02 draft slot.  The others were Chad Schmidt and Keith Knapp.  There are 5 additional players to make the 75 for 75 list that were drafted in the 2.02 slot:
2B Hamilton Bridges #46
3B Manuell Selas #48
SS Roberto Echegaray #29
CF Soze Liao
RF James Brewster

What is the value of a draft position?  In order to answer this question, I added up the “rank points” for each draft slot.  Rank points is simply 76-the players 75 for 75 ranking.
After I did this calculation, I realized a problem with the calculation: starting pitchers.  Namely, it’s difficult for a starting pitcher to make the 75/75 list.  In order to equal the playing field, I knew I needed to make some sort of an adjustment.  What I did is I looked at the HoF members.  There currently 146 players in the Hall.  With the exception of starting pitching, the distribution by position is roughly equal:
PositionHall of Fame Members
Catcher9
First Baseman14
Second Baseman12
Third Baseman10
Shortstops12
Left Field12
Center Field10
Right Field14
Relief Pitcher6
This averages out to 11 players per position.  As for starting pitchers, there are 47 in the Hall.  Therefore I figured that the equivalent of a different position’s top 75 players is roughly about four times for starting pitchers.  So for starting pitchers, I used the 75/75 rankings going all the way up to #300.  The ranking points then became 301-Rank / 4 (rounded up).  In this way, the top 4 pitchers all receive 75 ranking points, and pitchers 5-8 receive 74 points, and so on.
Totaling up the points by draft slot yields the results shown in the graph below

The dotted curve represents a formulaic “curve of best fit”.  The formula works out so that the draft slot of 2.02 where Dale Couch was drafted has a Rank Points total of 219.85.  Since there have been 75 amateur drafts (not including the inaugural draft), that means the expected average for this draft slot is 2.93 – which equates to a player who is ranked #73.  In other words, having the draft slot of 2.02 should, on the average, give you a player who would be ranked #73 on the 75/75 list (or a starting pitcher ranked 288-291).  Anything less than that would have to be considered a disappointment.
What we’ve seen in reality is that the 2.02 slot has performed better than the expected (aided by the HoF players like Couch pulling the average).  The total rank points is 384, which connects to a player ranked #71.  That may seem like a small difference, but in this context it is a fairly significant difference.
 
5) Pete Kahle * 2000 - 2019
Pete Kahle was the first NPBL’er to reach 600 career home runs.  He retired with 605 home runs.  Since his retirement, he’s been passed by on the leaderboard by 5 players and will soon be passed by another.  The NPBL 600 home run club (7 players):
PlayerPosition RankHome Runs
Walt Geldorf1B #1752
Mark Sims1B #2739
Dale CouchLF #4681
Tony BustamanteRF674
Buzzy Stevens3B #1635
Pete KahleLF #5605
Bob Griffith (active)2B #1604
For comparison, here is the MLB 600 home run club (9 players):
PlayerPositionHome Runs
Barry BondsLF762
Hank AaronRF755
Babe RuthRF714
Alex RodriguezSS696
Willie MaysCF660
Ken Griffey JrCF630
Albert Pujols (active)1B630
Jim Thome1B612
Sammy SosaRF609

A few comparisons between the two groups that I find interesting:
NPBLNPBL AverageStatisticMLB AverageMLB
21.4Seasons21.5
X2903Games2755
X10,772At-Bats9,908
X.307Batting Average.298
X2024RBI1963
1281Walks1565X
X1723Strikeouts1766
105Stolen Bases232X

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Re: 75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2018, 10:40:44 AM »
 6) Kevin Henson 2051 - 2065
Henson was the #1 overall pick by the Kentucky Colonels (current day Georgia Generals) in 2052.  Carrying on with the draft slot study explained in Dale Couch (LF #4), the #1 slot has a formulaic value of 2395, which is the equivalent of being ranked #44 on the 75/75 list.  Therefore, a player drafted first overall ought to achieve at least #44 (175 for starting pitchers) or be considered a bust.  And since this is an average figure, we ought to see approximately half of the overall #1s finish better than #44 and half finish #44 or worse.
The #1 overall picks:
YearTeam  PlayerPosRanked Better than 44 (175 for SP)?
2001NYAlex CabezasRFY
2002NYOsvaldo MoscatoLFN (121)
2003COHal Rehm1BY (22)
2004LATony OcejoLFY (19)
2005NVChris LottSSY (14)
2006LAJeffrey LangstonRFY
2007PADelmar BarrieCFY
2008CALeo BrailsfordCFN
2009CABobby NuñoCFY
2010DCKarl ImmellLFY (27)
2011CAJames GauntRFN
2012FLJoel Huertas2BY (19)
2013FLDenver Robinson1BN (44)
2014FLBill WormCY (4)
2015TNJerry JorgeLFY (19)
2016TLRuss GobblerSPY (140)
2017NVBobby RussellLFN (49)
2018NVPaul HallSPY
2019IDKevin SmithSPY
2020MSToshinobu KashiwagiLFY (18)
2021PAGreg HoltCFY
2022PASkipper CageLFY (9)
2023MNSixto SolisRFN (122)
2024MNJeff CallahanSPN (183)
2025TNDacio Herrara3BN (57)
2026UTJesse SellersCFN (103)
2027MAGranger GaytonLFN (77)
2028MNBuzzy Stevens3BY (1)
2029WARichard Reyer2BY (24)
2030HISantos De Los SantosSPY
2031WAElia AssanteRFN (128)
2032OHMiguel CarrascoSSY (4)
2033NVWilliam BowerSPY
2034NJSoggy HoganSPY
2035NVLi-xue JuSPY (167)
2036UTJorge DíazSPN (178)
2037PAIron Horse BocanegraSPN (253)
2038PASlippery Mike HunterSPN (277)
2039PACarlton MathisSPN (726)
2040GAWalt Geldof1BY (1)
2041PAChilly GomezSPN (523)
2042MNAlex Orati3BY (7)
2043COGustavo JiménezSPN (760)
2044MABrian HarrisSPN (529)
2045MIMudflap BrownSPN (232)
2046VADoodles ColbertSPY
2047HIDan BrandonSSY (28)
2048HIChris HullSPY
2049NVJorge MartínezSPY
2050NVMark DuncanSPY
2051KYKevin HensonLFY (6)
2052MDRonald WoodSPY
2053OHPat McCulloughSPN (546)
2054PAAndy DwyerSPY
2055NJJerome LinkSPN (220)
2056OHLarry Atkinson2BN (371)
2057PAMad Eye MacFaddenSPN (678)
2059COTom CannonSPN (313)
2060MIBob PhippsSPY
2061MNAndrew PhillipsSPN (606)
2062ILJake Young2BY (10)
2063ILAn-yi PeiRFN
2064ILMicah SimsSPN (718)
2065MNJoe RobertsCY (41)
2066NJMitchell PerryRPN (201)
2067MNJuan VidroSSY (19)
2068NJMalcolm LeeRFN (91)
2069MIJohn PetersonSPN (1220)
2070HIBill GeorgeOFN
2071HIJonathan LittleSSN (203)
2072COAntónio HernándezSPN
2073HIDimestore DuncanSPN
2074COJuan Jose MontoyaRFN
2075CODon LandrySSN
If my counting is correct, there are 36 “N”s on the list, which is 48% of 75.  Granted, some of the later names on the list cannot rightfully be labelled as a bust yet, but the formula doesn’t know that.

Actually… what I should have done was to ignore the last 5 years in order to allow time for those players to develop.  Doing that would change the standard a little bit.  The formulaic total rank points for 1.01 is still 2395, but that number should then be divided by 70 (instead of 75 since we are ignoring the last five years).  Therefore the average rank points would be 34.2, which means that the standard ranking would need to be 41 (164 for SP).  That would change one player on the list from a Y to a N (2035 Li-xue Ju), with 2065 Joe Roberts just barely making the cut.  So that’s 32 N’s out of 70, or 46% “bust rate”.

7) Jimmy Font * 2010 - 2027
Seasons on 100+ loss teams:
PlayerSeasons  Position75/75 Rank
Christopher Delaney 12C61
Guillermo Ortiz 10SSNR
Manuel Maderos 9CNR
Kennan Glaze 9PNR
Matthew Husband 8SSNR
Jimmy Font 7LF7
Ludwig Claus 72B33
John Miller 7RF46
Poor Christopher Delaney.  In 3 of his first 5 years he won the NPBL championship with the Washington Griffins.  He had to feel like this NPBL thing was a breeze.  Then in 2027, he was left unprotected in the expansion draft and the Hawaii Kula Sox scooped him up.  After suffering through five seasons with Hawaii, he was traded to the Pennsylvania Freedom.  But the window for the Freedom was closing and after just 2 playoff seasons, they went into rebuild mode.  Delaney would have 7 more 100+ loss seasons before the Freedom released him.  He would be picked up for one final season to end his career – by the Georgia Hornets, who were 53-109.
Jimmy Font is the only Hall of Famer on this list.  He was the first round (2nd overall) pick for a Bluefish team that was just beginning it’s rebuild in 2010.  Florida would go on to lose 100 games or more for the next 7 season while stockpiling high draft picks.  Eventually, with enough of those high picks panning out, the Bluefish turned things around.  Although – they were never that great in that era.  They won 100+ games only once and won one NPBL championship in 2020 – the year that Jimmy Font won his only Bacon Award.

8 ) Larry Pearson 2060 - 2073
I’ll be interested to see what Y0DA55 does for the Colorado Rams’ 75th anniversary team.  He’s got both Dale Couch (LF #4) and Larry Pearson (LF #8) as longtime Rams.  Does he see things the same way I do (Couch > Pearson)?  Does that force Pearson to a bench slot or does he move one of the two over to play RF?
Using the same method I described briefly in this post, I looked at which organization has the most strength at LF.  The answer was somewhat surprising to me.  As already mentioned, Colorado has the majority careers of:
Dale Couch (#4)
Larry Pearson (#8)
They also have portions of the careers of
Summer Nelson (#1)
Anthony Beckford (#2)
John Fleury (#36) 
Plus, the majority of
Oscar Oakley (#16)
Roberto Garcia (#52) 
This gave Colorado a total value of 3974.

They were barely eclipsed by the Mississippi / Georgia organization, with 3989, who had larger parts of the careers of
Summer Nelson (#1)
Anthony Beckford (#2)
Plus large parts of the careers of
Skipper Cage (#9)
Jason McKee (#12)
Steve Murray (#28)
Joe Colin (#53)
Dylan Noble (#61)

However, both organizations were surpassed by an organization that had no seasons from any left fielder in the top 10.  The DC Senators / Virginia Grays amassed 4239 points by accumulating seasons from
Leonardo Suarez (#13)
Bubba Godwin (#14)
Bill Dickie (#22)
Karl Immell (#27)
Gonzalo Molina (#30)
Juan Garcia (#37)
Alejandro Melendez (#60)
Plus a handful of seasons to add from John Fleury and Joe Colin.

9) Skipper Cage * 2022 - 2039
From 2030 to 2033, Skipper Cage won 3 NPBL championships with the Mississippi Ravens.  This brings up the topic of a dynasty.  What exactly is a dynasty in sports?  I don’t know what the exact criteria is to qualify for a dynasty, but I believe that the following NPBL franchises qualify.
YearsTeam  DescriptionAvg WinsStar Players
2009-2013Illinois Jethawks3 championships in 5 years     102.2SS Delia, 3B McDonaghey, 1B Gleaves, P Cleland, P Garza, P Ramos
2012-2015Mississippi Ravens3 championships in 4 years101.5LF Nelson, 2B Marshall, SS Kroner, 3B Stormes, P Turner, P Echegaray
2021-2026Washington Griffins4 championships in 6 years113.51B Carruthers, 2B Huertas, 3B Phillips, SS Lareau, CF Nuno, LF Teller, P Day, P Cordova, P Carrillo, P Ives
2030-2033Mississippi Ravens3 championships in 4 years106.25C Thompson, SS, Tedesco, 3B Shenk, 2B Stone, LF Cage, RF Hawking, P Hall, P Horizon
2045-2048Pennsylvania Freedom3 championships in 4 years97.51B Chou, LF Molina, RF Hernandez, SS Stover, 3B Leal, P Trejo, P Bocanegra
2063-2067Pennsylvania Freedom 4 championships in 5 years99.2SS Rivera, 3B Sanchez, RF Vasquez, P Dwyer, P Medina, P Raymond

10) Matt Carter * 2034 - 2050
The all-time Illinois Jethawks team:
C – Martin Holtz (31)
1B – John Gleaves (3)
2B – Jake Young (10)
3B – Jose Chavero (3)
SS – Mark Delia (8 )
LF – Matt Carter (10)
CF – Delmar Barrie
RF – Bruce Wedge
SP – Timoteo Taricco
RP- Eneas Reigosa

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Re: 75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2018, 10:41:47 AM »
11) Bill Barry 2068 - 2075
12) Jason McKee 2041 - 2057
13) Leonardo Suárez 2036 - 2052
14) Bubba Godwin 2063 - 2075
15) Will Cunningham 2058 - 2073
16) Oscar Oakley 2004 - 2021
17) Juan Ahedo * 2030 - 2042
18) Toshinobu Kashiwagi * 2021 - 2036
19) Jerry Jorge 2015 - 2032
20) Arlen Sepulveda 2035 - 2055
21) Eric Fender 2020 - 2036
22) Bill Dickie * 2020 - 2033
23) Adrian Gomez 2000 - 2010
24) Bill Long 2000 - 2008
25) Judge Judy 2058 - 2072
26) Manny Chacón 2044 - 2057
27) Karl Immell 2011 - 2027
28) Steve Murray 2061 - 2075
29) Munemori Ogiwara 2047 - 2062
30) Gonzalo Molina 2040 - 2060
31) Arthur Miller 2035 - 2047
32) William Heinz 2030 - 2044
33) Armando Benítez 2064 - 2075
34) James Meade 2045 - 2058
35) Harold Knight 2006 - 2017
36) John Fleury 2006 - 2017
37) Juan García 2047 - 2069
38) Tony Ocejo * 2004 - 2022
39) Alesso Rusticucci 2004 - 2016
40) Ramón Rivera 2043 - 2059
41) Ricardo Salazar 2070 - 2075
42) Lorenzo Torres 2055 - 2069
43) Kirk Decker 2034 - 2052
44) Brandon Ivy 2011 - 2025
45) John Carsswell 2014 - 2027
46) Teodósio Mestres 2056 - 2067
47) John Ross 2036 - 2047
48) Stephen Myers 2044 - 2061
49) Bobby Russell 2018 - 2033
50) Dave DeGraff 2067 - 2075
51) Dave Bird 2055 - 2067
52) Roberto García 2045 - 2058
53) Joe Colin 2016 - 2032
54) Sylvester Suarez 2014 - 2028
55) Matt Scheid 2053 - 2066
56) Josh Hoffman 2063 - 2074
57) Jorge Hernández 2032 - 2044
58) Curt Tatum 2051 - 2066
59) George Contreras 2014 - 2025
60) Alejandro Meléndez 2043 - 2064
61) Dylan Noble 2058 - 2072
62) Ryan Haber 2000 - 2010
63) Joseph Carte 2002 - 2013
64) Adam Coleman 2066 - 2075
65) Orlando Morán 2036 - 2054
66) Luis Cardona 2048 - 2063
67) Steven Ehrhardt 2007 - 2020
68) Ramon Baez 2000 - 2008
69) Alan Rodgers 2043 - 2063
70) Jimmy Bangs 2061 - 2075
71) Ewing Washington 2038 - 2056
72) Egbert Teijer 2059 - 2069
73) Herme Moreira 2015 - 2030
74) Christian Burrden 2008 - 2023
75) Philip Welborn 2027 - 2042

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Re: 75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2018, 10:46:33 AM »
The "draft slot" study has been rather interesting to me.  I'm going to delve a little deeper in upcoming lists.  If anyone sees a major flaw with where I've been going, please let me know.

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Re: 75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2018, 02:34:22 PM »
Ha, wow, a 10-year old quote that stands the test of time. Gosh we must be getting old!

And pretty cool that current Scorps LF Benitez is already 33rd and he just turned 30!

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Re: 75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2018, 07:04:13 AM »
I didn't realize it until just now, but I'm missing the 2058 #1 overall draft pick.  Whoever it was was drafted by Colorado and didn't pan out.  I'm not sure who it was though.  Anybody know?

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« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2018, 07:29:17 AM »
I didn't realize it until just now, but I'm missing the 2058 #1 overall draft pick.  Whoever it was was drafted by Colorado and didn't pan out.  I'm not sure who it was though.  Anybody know?

I'd be willing to bet it's this:

Thanks, MassGM...I'm up and running in 19 now...


...Only to find that my top prospect, 24-year-old OF Bill George has "decided to retire".  What the ???? ??? ??? ???

I'm checking on this to see if it was some sort of error... says he became a minor league free agent first?  That shouldn't have happened, and if it played a part in his retirement that's not right.

Apparently this was not a bug and is part of the 'storylines' feature.  George left to pursue a professional basketball career.  That sucks.

One of my top prospects did the same thing about 5-7 years ago. I was devastated.

Since the player never made the majors, he's been expunged and his ID assigned to someone else.  I'm still curious what his name was though.

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Re: 75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2018, 08:04:46 AM »
I believe you are talking about Lee Manning (see thread) who was a starting pitcher.

It was SO frustrating to lose a very good #1 pick.

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Re: 75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2018, 08:15:29 AM »
My guys:
Summer Nelson and Anthony Beckford - Before my time, would have loved to have him. I don't know how the trades worked out and the thinking behind them (and I don't really want to go searching for them at the moment), but it would be interesting to know.
Dale Couch - He's on the Mount Rushmore of Rams.
Larry Pearson - What AM I going to do with him on my team?  You'll see!
Oscar Oakley - Such a fan. I have such an affinity for the guys on the 2016 team.
John Fleury - Can't say that I remember this guy that well (even though he was on the 2016 team). I'd have to see what trade brought him over.
Roberto Garcia - His career lines up nicely with the years the Rams were good and when we weren't. Guess he just needed to play for winning teams.

I've been blessed with a lot of good outfielders over the years.

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Re: 75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2018, 08:42:37 AM »
4) Dale Couch * 2026 - 2044
Dale Couch is one of three Hall of Famers to be drafted in the 2.02 draft slot.  The others were Chad Schmidt and Keith Knapp.  There are 5 additional players to make the 75 for 75 list that were drafted in the 2.02 slot:
2B Hamilton Bridges #46
3B Manuell Selas #48
SS Roberto Echegaray #29
CF Soze Liao
RF James Brewster

What is the value of a draft position?  In order to answer this question, I added up the “rank points” for each draft slot.  Rank points is simply 76-the players 75 for 75 ranking.
After I did this calculation, I realized a problem with the calculation: starting pitchers.  Namely, it’s difficult for a starting pitcher to make the 75/75 list.  In order to equal the playing field, I knew I needed to make some sort of an adjustment.  What I did is I looked at the HoF members.  There currently 146 players in the Hall.  With the exception of starting pitching, the distribution by position is roughly equal:
PositionHall of Fame Members
Catcher9
First Baseman14
Second Baseman12
Third Baseman10
Shortstops12
Left Field12
Center Field10
Right Field14
Relief Pitcher6
This averages out to 11 players per position.  As for starting pitchers, there are 47 in the Hall.  Therefore I figured that the equivalent of a different position’s top 75 players is roughly about four times for starting pitchers.  So for starting pitchers, I used the 75/75 rankings going all the way up to #300.  The ranking points then became 301-Rank / 4 (rounded up).  In this way, the top 4 pitchers all receive 75 ranking points, and pitchers 5-8 receive 74 points, and so on.
Totaling up the points by draft slot yields the results shown in the graph below

The dotted curve represents a formulaic “curve of best fit”.  The formula works out so that the draft slot of 2.02 where Dale Couch was drafted has a Rank Points total of 219.85.  Since there have been 75 amateur drafts (not including the inaugural draft), that means the expected average for this draft slot is 2.93 – which equates to a player who is ranked #73.  In other words, having the draft slot of 2.02 should, on the average, give you a player who would be ranked #73 on the 75/75 list (or a starting pitcher ranked 288-291).  Anything less than that would have to be considered a disappointment.
What we’ve seen in reality is that the 2.02 slot has performed better than the expected (aided by the HoF players like Couch pulling the average).  The total rank points is 384, which connects to a player ranked #71.  That may seem like a small difference, but in this context it is a fairly significant difference.

Fantastic stuff...  well all of it is, really, but this section is something I've been curious about.

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Re: 75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2018, 08:48:37 AM »
I didn't realize it until just now, but I'm missing the 2058 #1 overall draft pick.  Whoever it was was drafted by Colorado and didn't pan out.  I'm not sure who it was though.  Anybody know?

I can confirm via the almanac that the #1 overall pick in 2058 was SP Lee Manning.  Followed by SP's Eric Sanders (PA) and Lloyd Ware (KS).

Manning started 8 games (3 in RL and 5 in A) and was 0-5 when a torn rotator cuff ended his career.

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Re: 75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2018, 08:49:37 AM »
I believe you are talking about Lee Manning (see thread) who was a starting pitcher.

It was SO frustrating to lose a very good #1 pick.

Thanks Brian.  I'm missing a ton ton of draft picks, but I at least wanted to have a complete set of the #1 overall picks.

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Re: 75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2018, 08:50:49 AM »
I didn't realize it until just now, but I'm missing the 2058 #1 overall draft pick.  Whoever it was was drafted by Colorado and didn't pan out.  I'm not sure who it was though.  Anybody know?

I can confirm via the almanac that the #1 overall pick in 2058 was SP Lee Manning.  Followed by SP's Eric Sanders (PA) and Lloyd Ware (KS).

Manning started 8 games (3 in RL and 5 in A) and was 0-5 when a torn rotator cuff ended his career.

Ooooo, does the in-game Almanac have more information than the web reports and StatsLab?

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Re: 75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2018, 08:55:45 AM »
Hold on, actually he didn't retire then, he was still in minor league ball the next year, pitching in A, AA and AAA.   Brian is right, must've been a storyline that got him.

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Re: 75 for 75 - Left Fielders
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2018, 08:59:08 AM »
I didn't realize it until just now, but I'm missing the 2058 #1 overall draft pick.  Whoever it was was drafted by Colorado and didn't pan out.  I'm not sure who it was though.  Anybody know?

I can confirm via the almanac that the #1 overall pick in 2058 was SP Lee Manning.  Followed by SP's Eric Sanders (PA) and Lloyd Ware (KS).

Manning started 8 games (3 in RL and 5 in A) and was 0-5 when a torn rotator cuff ended his career.

Ooooo, does the in-game Almanac have more information than the web reports and StatsLab?

It's basically an archive of the league reports every 12-31.... so any 'missing' links can be found.  I'd love to get them to you but the almanacs folder is very very large.  I was going to tell you how large but it's still calculating its size after a minute and a half.